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I went out to get some fireworks (May 19 is some holiday where people use
fireworks). It's some small stand outside of a grocery store, and I go up
and grab some stink bombs (you don't have to be 18 to buy those). Then I
look at the fireworks, and ask the guy what's good. He says "I'll have to
I.D. you for those, though". I'm like, "Alright, my birthday's in 4 days,
can I still get some." He tells me, "No, that doesn't work here."...What
does that even mean? I asked if I could just grab something smaller, but he
still didn't let me. So tomorrow, I have to drive all around to find some
fireworks.
Question: Would you sell me fireworks if my birthday was in 4 days? I'd
give me free fireworks because my birthday was coming up.
chris_knows
No, and no, I wouldn't.
Chances are, they've been busted before for selling to minors and got a
stiff fine with a threat to have their license revoked, or they are truly
law abiding citizens and fear a fine/getting their license revoked. Either
way, they wouldn't sell them to you.
Grow the f.uck up Chris. Yes, your birthday might be in four days, but in
the eyes of the law, you truly are still a minor. You could commit murder
tomorrow as a minor but still be tried as an ADULT.
And if that's such a problem, ask your parents to buy you some fireworks.
And if they won't even do that, then maybe you need to really ask yourself
something...
"If my parents won't buy me fireworks, four days before I'm legal to buy
them, am I really seen as responsible enough to have them in my
possession?"
Anyone who is actually LEGAL has had to wait to become just that. We've all
been screwed over by the 'system' in some way, shape, or form. Get used to
it. Welcome to life, Chris. Your vote will mean sweet f.uck all in the
grand scheme of things. Welcome to being a tax-paying 'statistic'.
dodgerforlife
The shop owners probably choose not to sell firework to minors not because
they believe the minors are't responsible, but because it's the law. Would
you jeopardize your business to sell $8 of bottlerockets to a pimplefaced
brat? Just get somebody else tbuy for you. Or just wait untill your 18,
that way you can get hammered and buy fireworks for the first time on the
same day. Sounds safe.:thumbs:
giant016
Not like I'm gonna become more responsible in 4 days. My parents used to
buy me fireworks actually. I'll just ask them to get me some fireworks when
they go grocery shopping, though.
Just to tell you guys, you'd make terrible businessmen. I'd sell me the
fireworks, possibly with a discount, because then next holiday, I'd get
them from the same place.
BTW Giant, it was also roman candles and cherry bombs lol.
chris_knows
Wrong. We'd make better and smarter businessmen, because we wouldn't have
some lame mystery shopper coming in, being allowed to buy products they
shouldn't, and being hit with stiff fines, or having business licenses
taken away. And as Giant said, the few bucks in profit that you get year to
year from one kid, really doesn't mean squat.
dodgerforlife
Yeah, but what kind of douche cop would fine somebody for selling fireworks
to a kid that's 4 days from being legal?
chris_knows
You'd be suprised. You honestly would.
dodgerforlife
Chris, comon, you're smarter than this. In the eyes of the law, it doesn't
matter if you're going to be 18 in an hour or a year, they can still get
fined for selling them to you. A big fine. Analyzing the risks, benefits,
and consequences of the situation makes it clear what the smart business
decision is. A few dollars (if that) profit is not worth risking hundreds
or maybe even thousands.
jedimario
Alright, fine...You guys win.
chris_knows
he didnt sell them to you cause you look like a terrorist lol
when i worked at walgreens some guy came to get cigarettes and his birthday
was gona be the next day, i couldnt sell them to him..i would have, but its
just how dumb laws of modern society are set up
newyorker
You're one to talk about "dumb"
jedimario
I sure am when I mention you.
newyorker
Yeah but I had 2 white friends with me...wearing American Eagle lol.
I went to another place to get fireworks today, and I was with a friend
who's a year younger than me, but he has a small beard coming in--like the
kind you get if you don't shave for 3 days--(as hard as I try, I can't grow
one). The fireworks guy didn't ask him for ID or anything. I have 2 other
friends that are 19 (legal age for booze in Canada), and they don't get
ID'd at liquor stores ever. They do look at me suspiciously when I'm with
them though.
It's so unfair that I look 14.
chris_knows
When you're 40 you'll be glad
windsonian
Sounds like my son when he didnt get his way
what i would tell him is "Its against the law !!! Simple answer Stop
whining"
Then some kid says they arent smart business men cause they didnt break the
law That is just a dumb statment
Headlines
on my friends 21st b day we went out and she tried to buy alchohol from the
bar and they denied because she has to be 21 and a day old to buy from the
bar, but we went back to the table and ordered and they let her buy the
drink from there, seemed odd. No real relation to this topic, but your
story just reminded me of that.
salimander13
Probably because the same rules apply. To drink you have to be 21. No
exceptions. To buy tobacco or fireworks etc 18 means 18. No exceptions.
Satty101
Chris, has somebody hacked your account? You seem too ignorant, lol. The
law is the law, thgere's no exceptions to it (Unless you use self deffence
or are under duress etc...then there's an exception...But that's in
different context, lol) :laughing:
Cliffy
By the time I'm 40, I'll probably be married, so who cares how I look?
lolIt's a stupid law. I would understand if I was trying to buy something
dangerous, but it's a roman candle. What's the worst the could happen; I
might vandalize someone's property? I'm pretty sure I could get more done
with a rock.18 and a day...that's weird.Ignorant? Cliffy, do you believe
that government should be held accountable? If your government passed a
1-child policy, would you sit idly by and just call everyone ignorant if
they disapproved of it? I thought we had a government of the people,
Cliffy. Your yellow belly is showing. :laughing:
And guys, lets not take this thread too seriously. I was serious about my
initial question, but this whole thread was made to have something to talk
about on CF again.
chris_knows
Say what? Maybe it varies state by state, but on my 21st I went to a few
bars and packies, was carded almost everytime, and was legally allowed to
buy booze.
giant016
You knobhead...Are you intentionally trying to make CF controvertial again?
:laughing:
I called you ignorant because that's what you're being. The law is the law
regarding fireworks, the Government could clasify them in groups of how
dangerous they are, but that wouldn't really solve anything.....Just
confuse the matter further still. The main issue isn't with people injuring
themselves, afterall, I'm sure you'd be safer than a 75 yr old man with
'shakey hand syndrone' lol. The main issue is with people mis-using them
and lighting them where they shouldn't. If you ask me, 18 is still too
young to be buying fireworks, afterall, I'd hazard a guess that most
eighteen-year-olds who buy them (not aimed at you....because you're
eighteen in 4-days...:doh: :laughing: ) do so to use them illegaly (ie in
the street or through a neighbours letterbox etc).
The bottom line here is, is that it's more than any reputable businesses
lisence is worth to sell to underage people, and that's all they are
concerned about!
Cliffy
I wouldn't use fireworks to damage other people's property...I'm just
saying that a rock can be just as dangerous as any firework. I'm more
likely to use the stink bomb for vandalism.
Alright, this discussion is pretty much done. Summary:
I'm just as irresponsible with fireworks now, as I would be on May 21st
(expecting a birthday thread :wink2: lol), but according to the law,
there's no exceptions.
chris_knows
the point is the gov't has to draw a line somewhere, and 18 is a nice round
number. the only other way around it would be for the gov't to require you
to apply for a license to be able to purchase fireworks. which I think
would be a better way to do things. same thing with alcohol. take a class,
and fill out paperwork to get a license, and if you screw up (drink and
drive/blow up your neighbors mailbox) you loose your license.
I think there are better laws to cry about. like here in the states, the
law requires us to where seatbelts if the vehicle is equipped with them.
Now I would where my seatbelt anyway, I just have a problem with the gov't.
telling me I have to. The only person I would endanger by not wearing it is
myself.
dvdrose18
Not true...your body could be repelled out the windshield and hit an
innocent bystander, therefore injuring them as well. Ha, just put a hole in
your theory. :wink2:
97Talonchik
I do think it would be propelled, not repelled:laughing: And if I was
propelled that far, so would be the 6-pack of beer in the passenger seat,
should the law require I buckle that in too?:mrgreen:
click it or ticket campaign this week and next.
dvdrose18
Are you the second child ?? if so i am for ONLY ONE CHILD LOL
Headlines
:laughing:
Nope...Underachieving first born FTW.
chris_knows
Not sure about how it is in the States, but in the UK you can be prosecuted
if your vehicle isn't loaded corrected. It's not really the same as having
just one or two items next to you that could be thrown through the
windscreen if you crash, it's more for holiday makers etc...Just my two
pennies worth..:laughing:
Cliffy
I think here it's something like if you have a load on top of your car
thats not properly secured you can get fined. Inside I think anything goes.
Satty101
Ah crap, propel...repel...close enough, lol. :badrazz: Yes, you should
always safely secure your beer, though everyone I know just holds onto the
six pack in the crook of their arm while driving and holding the open one.
That way, you don't even have to fumble to find a fresh one when yours runs
out. :thumbs:
97Talonchik
The cops here in Tennessee would
If the law says you must be 18, it does not mean 17 yrs and 361 days - it
means 18. The issue is not if you are responsible or not - I know some 40
yr olds who have no business owning a flashlight never the less owning
fireworks. The issue is what your laws say.
tbaxleyjr
We know you are from Tennessee now.......Sounds like something some of my
high school classmates did (the drinking age was 18 when I was in high
school although drunk driving has always been illegal)
tbaxleyjr
